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Originally Posted by disgruntled
no, i know what aikido is. i am very familiar with it. and no i am not saying that it is a flowery art that does no damage. but the ultimate goal of aikido is to disperse someones energy without harming them. with joint manipluation that is possible but very difficult and that is why this goal can only be achieved by masters. yes it is a very worthy street style and yes it is a very dangerous MA, but the purpose of aikido is SD not to do harm.
when i was saying that aikido is less brutal than hapkido i meant that for example in aikido you throw a guy down and restrain them if they are trying to harm you.... the situation is difussed..... in hapkido you take to the ground break or dislocate a joint, knock them out, or kill them, then restrain them.... situation stopped. hapkido is a harder MA and aikido is softer, but both are effective.
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What you are familiar with, is what is called "Modern Aikido" - they have the idea that they can use their methods(techniques) to end a fight, with out harming the attacker - And that does work just fine, but only in the Dojo! And also, they have to have the Uke corroborate with them in order to complete the technique! If they tried to execute a technique like that on the Street They Would Loose! The Attacker is just going to get back up and Kick the S*** out of them! But, Thats MODERN AIKIDO!!!!
Then, you have "Traditional Aikido" Which Executes their techniques much the same way that "Combat Hapkido Does"! And that Does Work On The Street! "You have to at least Knock the Breath out of the Attacker, so they can not get back up and do you real harm".
That, is why I asked you to view those films, so you could see that there is more then one style of Aikido!
There is a saying that goes like this; In Modern Aikido, the Uke Laughs when being thrown. In Traditional Aikido, the Uke Screams when taken down!!!
Disgruntled; There is No Such Thing As Being Nice To Someone That Really Wants To Harm You - You have to cause some Pain at least in order to end it!
Only people that have Never been in Harms Way will think they can end a confrontation peacefully!