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Originally Posted by Rickster

But MMA people say they can do these things as well...


MMA, as if this is some kind of "new" martial art.

And someone who truly mixes martial arts can. I have a friend who has studied jiu jitsu, karate, and muay thai. I consider him to be a martial artist who truly studies mixed martial arts.
The people who call their style MMA are usually folks who focus on ring-style submissions, eschewing the more devastating, less ring-friendly maneuvers because this won't help them win at the sport.
As far as MMA being a "new" martial art, that is just amusing to me. It's not even really a new concept. The style of karate I study could be called MMA, as it mixes Chinese and Japanese styles.

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