Martial Arts Forum
Web Search | Forum | Martial Arts TV | Guides | Directory | News | Useful Links


Go Back   Martial Arts Forums > Martial Arts Styles > General Martial Arts
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


General Martial Arts Post about a general martial arts topics

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old July 20th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 130
eYoon is new to the dojo
Send a message via MSN to eYoon
Default Gravity?

I was wondering this as i was watching through old episodes of dragonball z (yes that's right, i'm a huge dbz nerd).

in dbz, they sometimes train in multiple times the normal gravity of earth, to achieve several times the effect of the same workout in normal gravity.

do u think there's something to this for real life applications? say for example, in the future we can go and train on jupiter or something (just a hypothetical situation don't look too much into the technicalities of why it would not be possible) or say that we actually build a machine that allows us to experience multiple times normal gravity. do u think training under these kinds of conditions would wield the same benefits as in the anime?

or if that seems too farfetched... let's take another example from the series. weighted clothing.

characters such as goku and piccolo often wore weighted clothing to weigh themselves down, as a method of training more intensely. even in the earliest of dragonball episodes, master roshi made goku and krillin wear heavy turtle shells on their backs (50 pounds) while they did their every day training. what if real martial artists in the real world tried that method? what do you guys think?

and i'm not talking about wrist and ankle weights. i mean the entire training gear, weighted.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old July 20th, 2008, 09:37 PM
disgruntled's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 968
disgruntled is new to the dojo
Default

they do have weighted clothing type things. i have always wondered about that too. it makes sense that it would help, but i think it would just give you better endurance when not wearing it, i do not think there would be any strength gain.
__________________
"To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person"
- Bruce Lee -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old July 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM
Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 130
eYoon is new to the dojo
Send a message via MSN to eYoon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled View Post
they do have weighted clothing type things. i have always wondered about that too. it makes sense that it would help, but i think it would just give you better endurance when not wearing it, i do not think there would be any strength gain.
yea. i've always wanted to try something like that but the best i got for now are wrist and ankle weights. after training with them for a while, i take them off, and it almost feels like i can float haha. i just feel wayyy lighter and faster and all my movements become easier.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old July 21st, 2008, 07:09 PM
disgruntled's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 968
disgruntled is new to the dojo
Default

ankle and wrist weights are bad for your joints. if you do use them, make sure you do your motions slowly so that you do not injure your joints
__________________
"To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person"
- Bruce Lee -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old July 21st, 2008, 10:47 PM
Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 130
eYoon is new to the dojo
Send a message via MSN to eYoon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled View Post
ankle and wrist weights are bad for your joints. if you do use them, make sure you do your motions slowly so that you do not injure your joints
if i do them slow, do u think it'd still help me in some way?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old July 22nd, 2008, 10:46 AM
disgruntled's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 968
disgruntled is new to the dojo
Default

yeah because it would still be weight training. doing your motions slow even without weights is beneficial. if you go super slow, you can refine your technique and just target the exact muscles that you need for that technique and it is often harder to control your body when doing a motion really slow (like a kick) so i helps with balance too.
__________________
"To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person"
- Bruce Lee -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old July 22nd, 2008, 10:54 AM
Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 130
eYoon is new to the dojo
Send a message via MSN to eYoon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled View Post
yeah because it would still be weight training. doing your motions slow even without weights is beneficial. if you go super slow, you can refine your technique and just target the exact muscles that you need for that technique and it is often harder to control your body when doing a motion really slow (like a kick) so i helps with balance too.
very true. do you think it would help not put as much stress on the joints if i somehow had weights distributed across my whole body, like some sort of weighted training suit?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 08:09 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 654
sirdarksol is a karate kid
Default

Weighted vests are your best bets for full-speed training. They won't help your arm-movements much, but your jumps/kicks will gain great benefit.

As far as training in, say, 1.5g, yes, I believe that would be helpful, if incredibly tiring.
Of course, we couldn't survive training in the higher gravities that Gohan trained in.
__________________
"I don't have the knack of victory at all times. I have only learned how not to miss the right moment." Kenshin Uesugi

"If you confer only with people in your own circle (relatives and friends), their opinions will naturally favor you, rendering them useless." Tsunetomo Yamamoto

Fishlore: Aquarists Hobby Forum
http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/

Hail Lord Ilpalazzo!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old July 23rd, 2008, 08:24 PM
disgruntled's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 968
disgruntled is new to the dojo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eYoon View Post
very true. do you think it would help not put as much stress on the joints if i somehow had weights distributed across my whole body, like some sort of weighted training suit?
like Sirdarksol said, a weighted vest is your best bet. but you could also wear the ankle/wrist weights and punch/kick a bag. as long as you make impact with something it should not be hard on your joints because they are stoped before they over extend.
__________________
"To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person"
- Bruce Lee -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old July 24th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 130
eYoon is new to the dojo
Send a message via MSN to eYoon
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled View Post
like Sirdarksol said, a weighted vest is your best bet. but you could also wear the ankle/wrist weights and punch/kick a bag. as long as you make impact with something it should not be hard on your joints because they are stoped before they over extend.
i tried to work on my punching bag with ankle and wrist weights on. it didn't feel like it was helping cuz... because of the weights it felt like i was hitting the bag much harder than i actually was... just because my hands and feet were "heavier".
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27