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Old November 15th, 2007, 03:14 PM
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:55 PM
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Welcome to the forums.
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Please stop by the "Introduction" section, let us know about yourself, and by the "Guide to the forum" section, so we can let you know about us.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:58 PM
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i moved the thread to resources because i thought it would fit that topic better.

welcome to the forum, why don't you introduce your self in the intro section the vids you posted were good. i like the exercises they show at the beginning of video 1. and the combos in that video are quite neat. but i think that the multiple strikes look a little weak, he does not have enough core rotation.

i was not impressed with the second video though... i totally disagree with that training method. i get the point, it is believed if you are beligerent and extra agressive in class you a better prepare people for a real encounter..... but i think that just makes people emotional and uncontrollable. it increases the chances of injury and in my experience it is the ability to stay calm that is important, not learning to get excited because someone is acting agressive. i don't think they have any proof that their method is better anyway.

and the last video i was again not impressed with. it is clear the guy does not have extensive MA practice. yes much of what he is saying makes sense, and it would work to quickly teach people self-defense, but he is underestimating the value of martial arts. when i go to block i do not have to think what block to use and what arm they are going to use, part of my skill involves being able to read what will happen when they start to move and then my instincts and training kick in. i do not need to think about the which block to use because once you get to an advance level you know it is not about using specific blocks so much as knowing how body mechanics work for you and your opponent and thus you know how to react. i am not explaining this as well as i would like to..... it is not about learning lists of moves, it is about learning the principals of movement. and further, his comment about the absurdity of standing in a MA stance was wrong too. he claimed that because people do not walk around in MA stances they will not be ready when they need to be. that is Bull! hapkido bases all the stances on natural stances so that you are always prepared. in fact the basic self defense stance is indistinguishable from a person standing natually.

enough ranting i did like the first video though
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Welcome to the forums!
Look forward to seeing more of your posts.

I agree and disagree with you Dis.

I liked the first video, real nice hand speed he's got there. They look like they're carrying some power in there too which is nice to see; not fast for fast sake.

The second video is where I disagree with you. I have seen the entire video for this and have met Geoff Thompson.

Firstly, if I remember correctly you have to be at least a brown belt to go this course so you already have some idea of control.

Secondly the whole idea behind animal day is to experience a slightly closer to real life situation where your attacker doesn't stop when you get your technique wrong. Like a ki'ay (sp?) is partly designed to offput your opponent, the aggresiveness from a street fighter (and I use the term loosely) can also be offputting.

Thirdly - This is not how Geoff teaches most of his classes. He was a very humble and polite man and very in control of himself. A very capable individual who has been there and done it on some very rough club doors.

The third video - He does a very good presentation, I just dont agree with a lot of it. My flinch response is a proper block that also leads me straight into a counter attack. This is because of my training in the MA's instilling a way of movement into my auto response pattern. When I'm attacked I dont think about what I'm doing, I just do it!!
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damn you for summing up what i was trying to say about the third video better!!

going back to the second video, i would have to see more of the videos, but i know people have tried that approach with me before and i find it encourages an emotional response not a physical one. whereas, the few life situations i have been in i do not react that way. in training i get annyoed because i don't see a reason for people to act agressive when there is no need to. not to mention it is campped up, not realisitc and they just act biligerently randomly which is very unrealistic. and i do not feel comfortable reacting because the force and speed i would use would hurt someone. and i find that people don't get this, while practicing with this technique i would get them into a possition proving i can hurt them but then stop. but because i did not completely stop them they continue attacking, which is stupid, it is practice i am not going to break someones arm! as far as continuing the attack even if the technique is done wrong, if you are in a good self defence class you should be taught what to do when things do not work out as planned anyway.

and the first video you are right. i did not mean to imply i thought he had no power, he is clearly very talented. i just meant he would get more power with more rotation.
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really good work the videos are very wonderful i love th second one i think it's the best one
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really good work the videos are very wonderful i love th second one i think it's the best one
i did not really care for that one myself.... what did you enjoy about it? i always apprieciate another point of view
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